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The Theoretical Whirling School Of Vivec is now offering research fellowships in the following areas of study:-
- The mystery of the Center That Cannot Hold.
- The relationship of the Void Ghost (numbered 13) to the 'dead' god Lorkhan.
- Reaching heaven by violence: The six walking ways.
- The Provisional House.
There are no prerequisites for submission of a research paper; it should only demonstrate a grasp of the subject matter, with reference to Vivec's teachings and other sources, and make a new contribution to its general understanding.
There is no mimimum or maximum length, but a research paper should be published as a new thread for consideration.
The findings of research fellows will be published on a new web site, investigating the rational meaning of the teachings of Vivec.
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I am not a lore master, simply a collector of old stories. But I shall enjoy watching the rest of you make yourselves dizzy. I'm not altogether sure that investigating the rational meaning of Vivec's teachings is the right way to go about it... I like him best at his most joyously irrational.
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Dizziness is an occupational hazard for students of the Wheel. 
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I am consitered a "somewhat Lore master " Now what about Lorkhan?
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Morley,
Feel free to tackle a paper on "The relationship of the Void Ghost (numbered 13) to the 'dead' god Lorkhan".
Remember to make reference to the teachings of Vivec and other sources where possible.
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Excuse my ignorance (my speciality happens to be the Dwemer), but what on earth is this "Void Ghost"?
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SartorialTyrant,
I'm so sorry, but could you please ask that question as a separate thread?
I am afraid that otherwise, this thread could descend into an open debate across the topics given above, whereas its purpose is to announce the research fellowships indicated.
If you ask elswhere, I will be happy to respond to you.
Thank you.
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I have begun studying 'The Center that Cannot Hold.' This is not a definite commitment, but should I come to a better understanding of the subject, I will try to put together my findings for others to read/argue/agree/etc.
I've started a thread in this forum about the subject, as their are presently several matters that I need clarified to continue, and surely more to come.
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SartorialTyrant,
On reflection, I think that it was poor judgement for me to turn away your query. 
After all, I did raise these topics here in this thread and you made the effort to respond.
I apologise to you and I hope that what I say now will help you to obtain a better grasp of the subject matter and perhaps consider attempting a research paper.
Your question was what on earth is this "Void Ghost"?
A clue to approaching the possible identity of the Void Ghost is given in the title of that topic;
"The relationship of the Void Ghost (numbered 13) to the 'dead' god Lorkhan"
Since all of these topics relate to the teachings of Vivec, the 'Lessons' would be the place to begin.
36 Lessons Of Vivec (The Imperial Library)
If you are still struggling to find meaning, let me know and I will endeavour to direct your research further.
If anyone else is interested or confused and would like to raise a query about any of the topics above, please ask and I will try to help.
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Really, are there no other takers for these excellent research topics?
I would have thought that there were many great scholars who would relish the challenge this School has laid before them.
If it is a matter of knowing how to begin then, please, do ask freely and I will most certainly assist.
If you do not speak, I cannot know what prevents you.
Find me in the blackened paper, unarmored, in final scenery.
Truth is like my husband: instructed to smash, filled with procedure and noise, hammering, weighty, heaviness made schematic, lessons learned only by a mace.
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That is quite alright- I dabbled in the search function and found my answer.
Thanks.
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And what did you learn from your research? If you have discovered anything interesting, you could post a new thread to discuss your findings' significance.
To my knowledge, no-one has yet attempted the topic concering "The relationship of the Void Ghost (numbered 13) to the 'dead' god Lorkhan" and there is much to be revealed through a discussion of the subject.
I, for one, would be most interested in any results you have to show us.
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Really, are there no other takers for these excellent research topics?
I would have thought that there were many great scholars who would relish the challenge this School has laid before them.
If it is a matter of knowing how to begin then, please, do ask freely and I will most certainly assist.
If you do not speak, I cannot know what prevents you.
I truly believe that this is a worthy endeavor. The thing is I am just too busy to make any more promises of research. I am extremely interested in these studies, and I will visit this thread often.
As I write this, I am traveling across Tamriel looking for various “Rare and Astonishing Artifacts” that I can share with the readers of the Modern Adventurer. We are attempting to publish an Issue 7, and I still need to fulfill my end of the writing. At the moment, I do not have anything worthy of publication.
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I'll take it, although its not my specialty. But its always good too learn something new.
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These research topics are still very much open to discussion.
Three of them have now been studied but there is a great deal more to them than has been presented yet.
There seem to be several budding new scholars on this forum now, so if any of you are interested in something that will really make your head hurt, then I commend these matters to you for investigation.
I would advise anyone beginning study with the Whirling School to read through the papers already produced by School Fellows mafafu and pozzo.
If anyone has a related field of interest based upon the teachings of Vivec, I would be very interested to hear from you.
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You know its awfully dark in here - cant see a thing - BUMP  Aaaargh, what was that
Seriously though - there is still much research to be done on these topics and others - if anyone would like another paper then im sure Nigedo could suggest a title for you to study 
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Sure. Here are some new topics for anyone who would like to present a research paper based on a subject not yet attempted.
The Drowned Lamp
The number of The Master
The Hurling Disk: numbered seventeen
The nature of the compromise
I would like to add that the previous topic The relationship of the Void Ghost (numbered 13) to the 'dead' god Lorkhan is still under-researched and also it would be fine if anyone would care to present an individual analysis of any of the Six Walking Ways.
If you have a specific area of interest in relation to the teachings of Vivec then feel free to PM me to discuss it as a basis for a research paper.
As ever, there are no prerequisites for submission of a research paper; it should only demonstrate a grasp of the subject matter, with reference to Vivec's teachings and other sources, and make a new contribution to its general understanding.
To demonstrate a grasp of the subject matter, though, a paper must address the full nature of the topic concerned.
If you think you might like to attempt a paper and would like some help or guidance, please feel free to PM me.
Over to you.
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Hmm. No takers amongst you clever chaps out there?
As a reminder, you can read some example researches carried out by Fellows of the School with the comments that I have made on them;
I would love to hear from anyone who is at all interested in attempting a new paper, or would just like to understand the titles of the topics I suggested above, and you can be assured of my support in interpreting these difficult lore areas.
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These are very worthy topics guys, some of you should give one a go - believe me they are hard topics to master, but once you get into the sermons you'll learn things that you didnt know before
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I think I will attempt to tackle the subject of the Compromise since Daedric studies happens to be one of my specialities. Expect something by Tuesday.
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Thanks Nael, I would be very pleased to look at anything you present.
If you would like to discuss any aspect of that topic, feel free to PM me - I feel that you probably already have some grasp of the area, judging by your comments elsewhere.
I'm glad that you capitatalised 'Compromise' - I went back to change it in the post above, but I was too late to edit.
BTW, it may help you and others, if you were to reference specific sections of the Lessons in your paper. You can do this, if you wish to, by adding a link to the first specific 'verse' as it appears in the Numbered Version of the Lessons at the Whirling School website.
For example, the section from Sermon 36, which appears in the Numbered Version as verse 14;
'Resdaynia was no more. It had been redeemed of all the iniquities of the foolish.'
Can be directly referenced by the URL;
http://www.whirlingschool.net/numbers.html#36_14
I hope that is helpful to you.
Also, can you be sure to publish your paper as a new thread, please, so it can be referred to individually later.
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I think I will attempt to tackle the subject of the Compromise since Daedric studies happens to be one of my specialities. Expect something by Tuesday.
Tuesday?? Yowzers!! It took me a coupla weeks to get the Provisional House down - i must be getting old Glad you've decided to present a paper Nael, i have no doubt it will prove interesting reading 
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Okay people, im not going to apologise for resurrecting this thread from the deep and the dark - its about time to rally some of our newer scholars to attempt a Whirling School paper - at last check these are the papers that could do with some attention
The relationship of the Void Ghost (numbered 13) to the 'dead' god Lorkhan
The Drowned Lamp
The number of The Master
The Hurling Disk: numbered seventeen
If help is needed on these topics then talk to Nigedo (or even to me if you're desperate enough!!)
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Hehe.
Thanks Phil, it would certainly be great to see some more scholars attempt WS topics.
The only conditions for submissions are that they show a reasonable grasp of the topic and contribute something new to its general appreciation.
Edit: I would also like to publish some of the existing research on the Whirling School website. Present Fellows of the School have yet to formalise their researches, though.
(The site is long overdue for an update anyway, I hope to revamp it, make access to sources and research quicker and easier and present it more like the Academy site. Just as soon as I get the time.. )
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Present Fellows of the School have yet to formalise their researches, though.
Ahem .... Tum dum dum de dum .... oh alright, its on my to-do-list you know
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OK the current list of suggested research topics need refreshing.
'The Number of the Master' has been very well presented by our newest Fellow, Karnath.
The relationship between 'The Void Ghost (numbered 13) and the 'dead' god Lorkhan' is also quite well indicated by existing papers now, but if anyone would like to present a concise summary of this topic and examine some new implications, then that would be an acceptable basis for Fellowship.
The 'Nature of the Compromise' has been examined by Nael and a lot of useful ideas have come from that. Although, more could probably be added and anyone who wishes to continue that study is welcome to do so.
The 'Six Walking Ways' study begun by Pozzo is also now very much open to discussion again, since Vehk's mysterious recent addition. But anyone considering a new paper may wish to look at a fresh topic below.
So here is a list of topics (some old, some new) available for anyone who would like to be considered for Fellowship in the Whirling School. If you have any queries about the subject of a topic and how to begin, feel free to PM me.
The Drowned Lamp
The Hurling Disk: numbered seventeen
The Temporal Myth
The Invisible Gate: ALMSIVI and beyond
As ever, though, if there is another particular area of lore relating to Vivec's teachings that interests you, feel free to PM me and we can discuss it as the basis for a research paper.
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I'd love to be in the Whirling School, but the divinity of the Warrior Poet makes my head hurt. >_<
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It is not the school that is important, but the words ...
.... and the words still give us of the school a headache all the time
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