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Malisirion
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How Do I Organise my Mods?
      #2910677 - 08/10/04 02:32 AM

Hello, I'm woking on cleaning up my data files folder, and was wondering how I can get my mods to show up in alphabetical order on my mod list in the splash screen. I'm having a difficlt time looking through all of them, and need to get them in alphabetical order. Thanks in advance.



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Re: How Do I Organise my Mods? [Re: Malisirion]
      #2910725 - 08/10/04 02:45 AM

use testool to change the timestamp on the esps. The splash screen lists them in load order. earliest timestamp first, latest last.

Personally If I were you, I'd leave well alone. Sometimes load order can be critical, and by that I don't mean it passes snide comments on your wallpaper.

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Re: How Do I Organise my Mods? [Re: slategrey]
      #2910740 - 08/10/04 02:51 AM

Thanks for the info. I forgot that it changes load order. Since that's the case I will NEED to change it. I just re-installed all my mods and their not in the right order now.



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Re: How Do I Organise my Mods? [Re: Malisirion]
      #2912285 - 08/10/04 02:38 PM

timestamp is not when they were installed... its when they were last saved......................

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Re: How Do I Organise my Mods? [Re: Malisirion]
      #2912376 - 08/10/04 03:01 PM

There was an old thread, Clean Plugins , where this was asked and well-answered: regret that I cannot locate it now.

Essentially, you can rename your mods to suit yourself, some folk do, alphabetically or by category. (Seems to me Jara proposed that latter solution.) Then they will sort as you wish.

As I understand it, Morrowind looks for the files, not the mod name when it runs so you do not mess your game by doing this. Just make sure if you rename, that you check the newly titled label and uncheck the old in the Data Files screen and, of course , do not accidentally try to load both.
And accept that update patches may need some help finding a predecessor version, I think: not sure about that one.

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Re: How Do I Organise my Mods? [Re: Ronin49]
      #2915117 - 08/11/04 04:56 AM

Yes, Ronin dear... you remembered rightly. I was the one with the overwhelming compulsion to rename mods & insanely organize them by catagory. -laughs-

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A couple of things to remember...

Renaming mods shouldn't cause any issues. As a general rule, I don't rename .esms... just esps. I don't think it would cause any problems, but I like to be careful. And frankly, it's just easier to have them all grouped at the top of the DF list.

Renaming doesn't automatically organize them in your Data Files list. They should be resaved in the CS (or by some other timestamp altering program) in the order you want them.

In my Data files folder, I rename them by catagory, just to make them easier to find. Official, armor, clothing, quests, tweaks, misc, visuals, etc... are just some of the cataogries I use.

example:

Better Heads.esm
Bloodmoon.esm
Book Rotate v5.02.esm
Morrowind.esm
Tribunal.esm
Official - Area_Effect_Arrows.esp
Official - EBQ_Artifact_beforeTwinLamps.esp
Official - Entertainers.esp
Armor - Divine_domina_1.esp
Armor - Ice_Glass_Cuirass.esp
Armor - KoT - Akatosh.esp
Armor - Venymora_intro_v1p0.esp
Balance - Dodge_Mod_Enhanced-LD_Tribunal.esp
Balance - Thief_Experience_Overhaul-1.3b_Tribunal_Combined.esp
Clothing - AV_fem_shirts.esp
Clothing - IceBradyRobeReplacerMw.esp
Clothing - Lillias_Robes_v1.0.esp
Dialog - Persuasion_Response_v4.esp
Dialog - VGreetings.esp
Fix - PotionSorter.esp
Misc - Legionnaire's Signet.esp
Misc - The regulars - Sitting NPC's v2.02.esp
Misc - Weapon_Wielding_Mannequins.esp
Quest - Guar_Rescue.esp
Quest - Join_All_Houses.esp
Quest - Juniper's_Twin_Lamps_1.1-Tribunal.esp
Quest - BQC-Ver 2.5_afterTwinLamps.esp
Official - Firemoth_afterBQC.esp
Visuals - Gardeners of Morrowind.esp
Visuals - Key Replacer Trib & BM.esp
Visuals - Tat_NordFemales.esp
Visuals - Vivec_Replacement_v_1.00.esp

Notice how a couple appear out of order? I saved them intentionally in that order, and renamed them, so I wouldn't forget where they should be.

You can still put mods in any renaming order you choose, and avoid load order conflicts, by merely saving those mods near the end in the appropriate order. Or... make a new 'z' catagory.

example:

z - EBQ_Artifact_beforeTwinLamps.esp
z - Juniper's_Twin_Lamps_1.1-Tribunal.esp
z - BQC-Ver 2.5_afterTwinLamps.esp
z - Firemoth_afterBQC.esp


Be very careful about checking for mod dependencies. If you change a mod's name, you MUST resave any dependent mod with the new mod's name, or you'll have issues with the dependent mod.

I hope that helps... And I hope even more that I didn't totally confuse anyone. -grins- It's an insane extra bit of unnecessary busywork... but it makes me happy.. and I can FIND things!

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Re: How Do I Organise my Mods? [Re: Jara]
      #2915277 - 08/11/04 06:46 AM

I was so impressed with this scheme that I strted doing it myself for my latest new game. I alos decided that I'd give each category a unique starting letter, just to aid in recognition.

My categories are

armor
body
cities
dungeons
fx and magic
garb
houses
itamz
landscape
mine
npcs
quest
sundries
tweak
weapons
zoology

I store my mods in separate folders coresponding to those names. Each folderis represented by a unique icon. The next step is to change the icons on the individual esp files to match the folder icon.

Just something to do on when the insomnia kicks in.

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